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		<title>By: E-patients, Cyberchondriacs, and Why We Should Stop Calling Names &#124; e-Patients.net</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-57941</link>
		<dc:creator>E-patients, Cyberchondriacs, and Why We Should Stop Calling Names &#124; e-Patients.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My posts: Googlers vs. e-patients vs. cyberchondriacs and Cyberchondria: Old Wine in New Bottles [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Pew Internet/Health FAQ &#124; e-Patients.net</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-48696</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pew Internet/Health FAQ &#124; e-Patients.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] versus “Health Care Consumers”? Both, If You Ask Me. We also unpacked a Microsoft study of &#8220;cyberchondria&#8221; (be sure to read the comments on all of these [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] versus “Health Care Consumers”? Both, If You Ask Me. We also unpacked a Microsoft study of &#8220;cyberchondria&#8221; (be sure to read the comments on all of these [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ePatientDave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-50051</link>
		<dc:creator>ePatientDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;And another RT @SusannahFox: @VinceKuraitis Finally, my gratitude to (but critique of) a Microsoft cyberchondria study: http://bit.ly/4uiUko&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">And another RT @SusannahFox: @VinceKuraitis Finally, my gratitude to (but critique of) a Microsoft cyberchondria study: <a href="http://bit.ly/4uiUko" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4uiUko</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-50052</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@VinceKuraitis Finally, then I&#039;ll leave it alone, my gratitude to (but critique of) a Microsoft cyberchondria study: http://bit.ly/4uiUko&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@VinceKuraitis Finally, then I&#39;ll leave it alone, my gratitude to (but critique of) a Microsoft cyberchondria study: <a href="http://bit.ly/4uiUko" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4uiUko</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Cyberchondria - TrumpetMaster</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-48650</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberchondria - TrumpetMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the better.  Cyberchondria: Online Diagnosis Leads to Obsessive Fear: Scientific American Podcast  Cyberchondria: Old Wine in New Bottles &#124; e-Patients.net  Find Podcasts : Radio : On The Media from NPR/WNYC search word Cyberchondria  __________________ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the better.  Cyberchondria: Online Diagnosis Leads to Obsessive Fear: Scientific American Podcast  Cyberchondria: Old Wine in New Bottles | e-Patients.net  Find Podcasts : Radio : On The Media from NPR/WNYC search word Cyberchondria  __________________ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-50053</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@krazykriz Re Diana Forsythe and designing w/users in mind, please see: http://is.gd/O9Uq or http://is.gd/O9WT or http://is.gd/Oa12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@krazykriz Re Diana Forsythe and designing w/users in mind, please see: <a href="http://is.gd/O9Uq" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/O9Uq</a> or <a href="http://is.gd/O9WT" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/O9WT</a> or <a href="http://is.gd/Oa12" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/Oa12</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-50054</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;For those who say that attitude is ancient history, please read http://is.gd/tx6y (or really anything on e-patients.net)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">For those who say that attitude is ancient history, please read <a href="http://is.gd/tx6y" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/tx6y</a> (or really anything on e-patients.net)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-50055</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;is reading Gilles Frydman&#039;s scathing comment on cyberchondria http://tinyurl.com/62pacw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">is reading Gilles Frydman&#8217;s scathing comment on cyberchondria <a href="http://tinyurl.com/62pacw" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/62pacw</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: “Patients” vs. “Health Care Consumers”? Both, If You Ask AmyT &#124; e-Patients.net</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-5957</link>
		<dc:creator>“Patients” vs. “Health Care Consumers”? Both, If You Ask AmyT &#124; e-Patients.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tenderich weighs in on the name debate: patient vs. consumer. Almost anything is better than cyberchondriac or medical googler, but e-patient is still my favorite.   Susannah Fox is an Associate Director of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kristi Miller Durazo</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-55864</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi Miller Durazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Oops, with link on patient centered design.  http://tinyurl.com/659ekh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Oops, with link on patient centered design.  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/659ekh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/659ekh</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Susannah Fox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-2190</link>
		<dc:creator>Susannah Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just Googled &quot;cyberchondria&quot; to see how far the term reaches (363k links) and of course it led me to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberchondria&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt;. The entry is interesting, but more for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cyberchondria&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;meta commentary&lt;/a&gt; by MaxEnt:

I&#039;m extremely dubious about mention of Harris in the lede. The first thing that went through my head was &quot;this is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sut_Jhally&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sut Jhally&lt;/a&gt; writ large&quot;. How does the market Harris serves wish this term to function? Probably they want patients showing up at their doctor&#039;s office requesting exotic medications for conditions of borderline concern. Does it help them if the negative, neutral, or confused interpretation prevails? It&#039;s a non-trivial task to determine what is being spun and to whom.(endquote)

This goes toward the &lt;a href=&quot;http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/11/whats-wrong-with-this-picture.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conflict of interest&lt;/a&gt; discussion we are having elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just Googled &#8220;cyberchondria&#8221; to see how far the term reaches (363k links) and of course it led me to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberchondria" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia entry</a>. The entry is interesting, but more for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cyberchondria" rel="nofollow">meta commentary</a> by MaxEnt:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m extremely dubious about mention of Harris in the lede. The first thing that went through my head was &#8220;this is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sut_Jhally" rel="nofollow">Sut Jhally</a> writ large&#8221;. How does the market Harris serves wish this term to function? Probably they want patients showing up at their doctor&#8217;s office requesting exotic medications for conditions of borderline concern. Does it help them if the negative, neutral, or confused interpretation prevails? It&#8217;s a non-trivial task to determine what is being spun and to whom.(endquote)</p>
<p>This goes toward the <a href="http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/11/whats-wrong-with-this-picture.html" rel="nofollow">conflict of interest</a> discussion we are having elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming late in the game but wanted to mention one more potential problem with the study that the great expert at the NY Times didn&#039;t even mention: is there anywhere behind the study a corporate reason to position Healthvault as a better alternative to Dr. Google? 

So, the study is conducted by Ryen W. White and Eric Horvitz, 2 full time employees of Microsoft. That may start to explain why they publish on the research.microsoft.com platform. We have been talking a lot about conflict of interest when relating to misuse of statistical data. 

Why not look into the potential reasons for Microsoft to publish research that demonstrate why the 80% of medical searches done by the American public using their favorite search engine, Google, &quot;could&quot; be dangerous. 

Why not look into the potential conflict of interest of the 2 researchers in promoting a better way to get &quot;scientific and proven&quot; diagnosis by entering your data into Microsoft Healthvault PHR. 

Are we all so numb that we never question what seems to be the most obvious problems of corporation funded research?  Researchers working hard to resurrect a moribund term usually do so for a very good reason. I wish the so-called expert journalist from the NY Times would have abandoned for a while his role of groupie of Eric Horvitz, the President of the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence, and started to behave like journalists used to behave, asking hard questions.  

In any case, it&#039;s time to retire cyberchondria for another 10 years. It is also time for  John Markoff to retire for the same length of time.  By then the New York Times will probably be in a similar situation to where GM is today, an old and beaten whale, unable to survive in its former shape, if at all.  

Informed patients will, by then, have no patience for transparent abuse of power by the experts of yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming late in the game but wanted to mention one more potential problem with the study that the great expert at the NY Times didn&#8217;t even mention: is there anywhere behind the study a corporate reason to position Healthvault as a better alternative to Dr. Google? </p>
<p>So, the study is conducted by Ryen W. White and Eric Horvitz, 2 full time employees of Microsoft. That may start to explain why they publish on the research.microsoft.com platform. We have been talking a lot about conflict of interest when relating to misuse of statistical data. </p>
<p>Why not look into the potential reasons for Microsoft to publish research that demonstrate why the 80% of medical searches done by the American public using their favorite search engine, Google, &#8220;could&#8221; be dangerous. </p>
<p>Why not look into the potential conflict of interest of the 2 researchers in promoting a better way to get &#8220;scientific and proven&#8221; diagnosis by entering your data into Microsoft Healthvault PHR. </p>
<p>Are we all so numb that we never question what seems to be the most obvious problems of corporation funded research?  Researchers working hard to resurrect a moribund term usually do so for a very good reason. I wish the so-called expert journalist from the NY Times would have abandoned for a while his role of groupie of Eric Horvitz, the President of the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence, and started to behave like journalists used to behave, asking hard questions.  </p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s time to retire cyberchondria for another 10 years. It is also time for  John Markoff to retire for the same length of time.  By then the New York Times will probably be in a similar situation to where GM is today, an old and beaten whale, unable to survive in its former shape, if at all.  </p>
<p>Informed patients will, by then, have no patience for transparent abuse of power by the experts of yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberchondria, Medical Education and a Story of Dying - World of Psychology</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberchondria, Medical Education and a Story of Dying - World of Psychology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cyberchondria: Old Wine in New Bottles  Just before Thanksgiving, Microsoft released a study entitled, “Cyberchondria: Studies of the Escalation of Medical Concerns in Web Search.” Ryen White and Eric Horvitz took advantage of a data set that few people have access to (log files from Microsoft’s Live Search engine and MSN Health and Fitness) as well as a survey of 515 Microsoft employees. They also did a great service to those of us who have a problem with the term “cyberchondriac” since they define cyberchondria as “the unfounded escalation of concerns about common symptomatology, based on the review of search results and literature on the Web.” That does not describe most internet users and therefore, people might think about retiring the term from general usage. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cyberchondria: Old Wine in New Bottles  Just before Thanksgiving, Microsoft released a study entitled, “Cyberchondria: Studies of the Escalation of Medical Concerns in Web Search.” Ryen White and Eric Horvitz took advantage of a data set that few people have access to (log files from Microsoft’s Live Search engine and MSN Health and Fitness) as well as a survey of 515 Microsoft employees. They also did a great service to those of us who have a problem with the term “cyberchondriac” since they define cyberchondria as “the unfounded escalation of concerns about common symptomatology, based on the review of search results and literature on the Web.” That does not describe most internet users and therefore, people might think about retiring the term from general usage. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-1977</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very good insights, John!  Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: John Grohol</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>John Grohol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do have to be careful in interpreting data in a vacuum, or with a biased sample. They tried to take care of the vacuum with the survey, but then made the results of the survey virtually useless as something generalizable (unless you happen to be a white collar employee who works for Microsoft). 

Second, they recognized the problem with analyzing only search queries versus the far richer navigational paths of users. A navigational path would provide more contextual information -- information that would really confirm (or disconfirm) their hypotheses about &quot;escalation.&quot; Their failure to find a method to analyze this data is unfortunate.

Third, I believe it&#039;s natural human curiosity to explore the &quot;worst case scenario,&quot; especially when it comes to our own or a loved one&#039;s health. We want to prepare ourselves for the worst possibilities, so when we&#039;re told it&#039;s just hypertension, it&#039;s a pleasant relief. 

After all, when you investigate a new car, don&#039;t most people nowadays check out the crash ratings of their car? Does that mean people are more inclined to imagine themselves getting into an accident? Or simply doing more research on the topic because tools like search engines make such research practically free (except for our time). The opportunity costs are the same, so this finding, if true, isn&#039;t even surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do have to be careful in interpreting data in a vacuum, or with a biased sample. They tried to take care of the vacuum with the survey, but then made the results of the survey virtually useless as something generalizable (unless you happen to be a white collar employee who works for Microsoft). </p>
<p>Second, they recognized the problem with analyzing only search queries versus the far richer navigational paths of users. A navigational path would provide more contextual information &#8212; information that would really confirm (or disconfirm) their hypotheses about &#8220;escalation.&#8221; Their failure to find a method to analyze this data is unfortunate.</p>
<p>Third, I believe it&#8217;s natural human curiosity to explore the &#8220;worst case scenario,&#8221; especially when it comes to our own or a loved one&#8217;s health. We want to prepare ourselves for the worst possibilities, so when we&#8217;re told it&#8217;s just hypertension, it&#8217;s a pleasant relief. </p>
<p>After all, when you investigate a new car, don&#8217;t most people nowadays check out the crash ratings of their car? Does that mean people are more inclined to imagine themselves getting into an accident? Or simply doing more research on the topic because tools like search engines make such research practically free (except for our time). The opportunity costs are the same, so this finding, if true, isn&#8217;t even surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-1944</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; asked one doctor what he thought patients should know

Thank you for naming a recurring elephant in the room. This is so wrong-headed. And, more to the point, it&#039;s &quot;doctosaurus&quot; thinking, not patient-oriented.  How dumb, when designing something for patients!  

It&#039;s quite as if a retailer designed its store based on what the engineers thought people would want to know about.

A year ago at the Kidney Cancer Association&#039;s Boston &quot;Patient Day,&quot; as they called it, the entire agenda was designed that way. It was horrid! The #1 question on the mind of a new patient is just as in your migraine story: Am I going to die?? But they didn&#039;t even touch on it.

Please please please, people in healthcare, ASK US!  Ask the patients!  It&#039;s not hard!

When e-patient pioneer Doc Tom was asked once to present to first-graders about being a doctor, he did a radical thing: he got in touch with them in advance and asked them what they&#039;d like to know about. He got some surprising answers: one little girl wanted to know what&#039;s in blood, and several wanted to know &quot;What&#039;s this stethoscope thing all about??&quot; So he brought stethoscopes, a microscope, and blood slides.

I know your academic training is to study in isolation and think what to present to others. Within HC that may be fine, but NOT TO PATIENTS!  Arg!

And here&#039;s the irony: I ultimately learned that for whatever reason, the KCA isn&#039;t the least bit interested in what patients want to hear about. I outlined an alternate track of patient-centered topics, starting with: 
1) Cancer is no longer a death sentence; 
2) Understanding statistics; 
3) Building a support community
... etc, 7 sessions for a day-long conference.  I sent it to them via email twice, and wrote a paper letter, and never heard a thing back.

Especially ironic is that after the opening session, during Q&amp;A I asked the speaker about the freshness of his data. He agreed that it was not relevant to anyone trying to understand their odds today, because all the data was collected before any of today&#039;s treatments existed.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are people thinking when they dispense (valid) data like that, at a so-called &quot;Patient Day&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; asked one doctor what he thought patients should know</p>
<p>Thank you for naming a recurring elephant in the room. This is so wrong-headed. And, more to the point, it&#8217;s &#8220;doctosaurus&#8221; thinking, not patient-oriented.  How dumb, when designing something for patients!  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite as if a retailer designed its store based on what the engineers thought people would want to know about.</p>
<p>A year ago at the Kidney Cancer Association&#8217;s Boston &#8220;Patient Day,&#8221; as they called it, the entire agenda was designed that way. It was horrid! The #1 question on the mind of a new patient is just as in your migraine story: Am I going to die?? But they didn&#8217;t even touch on it.</p>
<p>Please please please, people in healthcare, ASK US!  Ask the patients!  It&#8217;s not hard!</p>
<p>When e-patient pioneer Doc Tom was asked once to present to first-graders about being a doctor, he did a radical thing: he got in touch with them in advance and asked them what they&#8217;d like to know about. He got some surprising answers: one little girl wanted to know what&#8217;s in blood, and several wanted to know &#8220;What&#8217;s this stethoscope thing all about??&#8221; So he brought stethoscopes, a microscope, and blood slides.</p>
<p>I know your academic training is to study in isolation and think what to present to others. Within HC that may be fine, but NOT TO PATIENTS!  Arg!</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the irony: I ultimately learned that for whatever reason, the KCA isn&#8217;t the least bit interested in what patients want to hear about. I outlined an alternate track of patient-centered topics, starting with:<br />
1) Cancer is no longer a death sentence;<br />
2) Understanding statistics;<br />
3) Building a support community<br />
&#8230; etc, 7 sessions for a day-long conference.  I sent it to them via email twice, and wrote a paper letter, and never heard a thing back.</p>
<p>Especially ironic is that after the opening session, during Q&amp;A I asked the speaker about the freshness of his data. He agreed that it was not relevant to anyone trying to understand their odds today, because all the data was collected before any of today&#8217;s treatments existed.</p>
<p>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>What are people thinking when they dispense (valid) data like that, at a so-called &#8220;Patient Day&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: ICMCC Newspage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cyberchondria: Old Wine in New Bottles</title>
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		<dc:creator>ICMCC Newspage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cyberchondria: Old Wine in New Bottles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] internet users and therefore, people might think about retiring the term from general usage.&#8221; Article Susannah Fox, e-patients.net, 2 December [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] internet users and therefore, people might think about retiring the term from general usage.&#8221; Article Susannah Fox, e-patients.net, 2 December [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Greene</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2008/12/cyberchondria-old-wine-in-new-bottles.html/comment-page-1#comment-1924</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of what can be learned from adult web sites (often touted as the leading edge on the web) is an interesting one.  While I do not doubt that there is a huge discrepancy in the reported number vs. the actual number of people who view adult sites, there is one other huge factor to consider. Those who frequent porn sites probably do it a lot -- sticky content at its best!

How does this apply to cyberchondriacs? I would venture to guess that those who lean that way spend a lot of time searching and reading, but not enough sleeping at night!  

Could be most health searchers are far more balanced in their approach, but less exciting to watch.

C~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of what can be learned from adult web sites (often touted as the leading edge on the web) is an interesting one.  While I do not doubt that there is a huge discrepancy in the reported number vs. the actual number of people who view adult sites, there is one other huge factor to consider. Those who frequent porn sites probably do it a lot &#8212; sticky content at its best!</p>
<p>How does this apply to cyberchondriacs? I would venture to guess that those who lean that way spend a lot of time searching and reading, but not enough sleeping at night!  </p>
<p>Could be most health searchers are far more balanced in their approach, but less exciting to watch.</p>
<p>C~</p>
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