E-Patient Discovers Significant Flaws in System, Spin Doctors Get to WorkComments on: -- http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html because health professionals can't do it alone Tue, 22 May 2012 03:29:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: Post Mortem « Open Book Medicine http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-78675 Post Mortem « Open Book Medicine Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:08:58 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-78675 [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...] [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...]

]]> By: Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) « health care commentaries from around the world http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-78111 Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) « health care commentaries from around the world Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:48:29 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-78111 [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...] [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...]

]]> By: Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | Health & Fitness GOALS! http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-78032 Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | Health & Fitness GOALS! Sat, 16 Apr 2011 03:03:58 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-78032 [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...] [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...]

]]> By: Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | LifeStyleEasy http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-78012 Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | LifeStyleEasy Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:36:23 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-78012 [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...] [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...]

]]> By: Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | Health Care Jobs in Arizona http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-77996 Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | Health Care Jobs in Arizona Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:05:11 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-77996 [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing withreal-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of thelargest companies in the technology world with some of the brightestengineering [...] [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing withreal-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of thelargest companies in the technology world with some of the brightestengineering [...]

]]> By: Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | The Health Care Blog http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-77993 Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | The Health Care Blog Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:43:25 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-77993 [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...] [...] haven’t undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...]

]]> By: Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | e-Patients.net http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-77895 Rest in Peace: Personal Health Records (PHRs) | e-Patients.net Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:07:06 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-77895 [...] undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...] [...] undergone real-world testing with real-world data. As we discussed back in April 2009, PHRs simply don’t work as intended with real-world data. If one of the largest companies in the technology world with some of the brightest engineering [...]

]]> By: Don’t Give Up on The Personal Health Record | WorldHealthCareBlog.org http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-31574 Don’t Give Up on The Personal Health Record | WorldHealthCareBlog.org Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:41:11 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-31574 [...] Dave had written about. John Grohol at e-patients.net described Jay’s assessment as “Hitting one out of the park“. However, I don’t share Jay’s [...] [...] Dave had written about. John Grohol at e-patients.net described Jay’s assessment as “Hitting one out of the park“. However, I don’t share Jay’s [...]

]]> By: Housedoc http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-18038 Housedoc Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:00:29 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-18038 The problem is that most of these systems are too complicated and requires having to sort through all sorts of irrelevant information. That's why we developed an easy to use, HIPAA compliant, on line site, www.housedoc.us, that lets patients list their medications, and include only the important medical information. Its also lets doctors and patients communicate with each other by email. The problem is that most of these systems are too complicated and requires having to sort through all sorts of irrelevant information. That’s why we developed an easy to use, HIPAA compliant, on line site, http://www.housedoc.us, that lets patients list their medications, and include only the important medical information. Its also lets doctors and patients communicate with each other by email.

]]> By: Kate Christensen http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-17245 Kate Christensen Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:12:11 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-17245 Current meds, allergies and imms. No conditions or procedures available yet, from my EHR system. I can change/edit the data if I want, which changes the signature to mine. Current meds, allergies and imms. No conditions or procedures available yet, from my EHR system. I can change/edit the data if I want, which changes the signature to mine.

]]> By: e-Patient Dave http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-17214 e-Patient Dave Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:44:30 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-17214 Thanks, Kate. Do you have conditions and procedures you could upload? Was it medication history or just current ones? (Nosy, ain't I? Well, you know, you don't have to answer anything you don't want.) Thanks, Kate.

Do you have conditions and procedures you could upload?

Was it medication history or just current ones?

(Nosy, ain’t I? Well, you know, you don’t have to answer anything you don’t want.)

]]> By: Kate Christensen http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-17212 Kate Christensen Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:37:35 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-17212 Here's another user experience - I uploaded my allergy list, medication list, and immunizations onto HealthVault, and they appeared as exact replicas of what was in my record. There isn't much I can do with it there except pass it along, but at least it came across accurately. Here’s another user experience – I uploaded my allergy list, medication list, and immunizations onto HealthVault, and they appeared as exact replicas of what was in my record. There isn’t much I can do with it there except pass it along, but at least it came across accurately.

]]> By: Lodewijk Bos http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-55811 Lodewijk Bos Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:31:14 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-55811 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@ePatientDave great article from John! http://tinyurl.com/cx98ox</span></span> @ePatientDave great article from John! http://tinyurl.com/cx98ox

]]> By: Dr. John Grohol http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-50069 Dr. John Grohol Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:13:54 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-50069 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">It takes a real patient to find the significant problems in Google Health/hospitals (like BIDMC) elec medical records: http://bit.ly/eYcC0</span></span> It takes a real patient to find the significant problems in Google Health/hospitals (like BIDMC) elec medical records: http://bit.ly/eYcC0

]]> By: Gilles Frydman http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-17054 Gilles Frydman Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:04:36 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-17054 The more I digg into this story the more I am, very strangely, becoming a big fan of Google Health and Microsoft HealthVault. These may be our only possibility to grab our health data and do somethinh constructive with it. I am becoming convinced that we got blindsinded by the privacy issues (yes they are real) and never questioned the data quality in existing EHRs. So what if these are fully protected by HIPAA, if they transmit useless or worse, erroneous data. We assume that Dave's problems were specific to Google but we don't now if transfer of data from BIDMC to another institution would be of a higher caliver or not. Lots of unanswered questions! The more I digg into this story the more I am, very strangely, becoming a big fan of Google Health and Microsoft HealthVault. These may be our only possibility to grab our health data and do somethinh constructive with it.

I am becoming convinced that we got blindsinded by the privacy issues (yes they are real) and never questioned the data quality in existing EHRs. So what if these are fully protected by HIPAA, if they transmit useless or worse, erroneous data.

We assume that Dave’s problems were specific to Google but we don’t now if transfer of data from BIDMC to another institution would be of a higher caliver or not. Lots of unanswered questions!

]]> By: Andy Press http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-17040 Andy Press Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:18:50 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-17040 Yes Google should just give up its business in EMR. We don't need a 800 pound business Guerrila to keep people's EMR. Yes Google should just give up its business in EMR. We don’t need a 800 pound business Guerrila to keep people’s EMR.

]]> By: ICMCC Website - Articles » Blog Archive » E-Patient Discovers Significant Flaws in System, Spin Doctors Get to Work http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-17006 ICMCC Website - Articles » Blog Archive » E-Patient Discovers Significant Flaws in System, Spin Doctors Get to Work Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:28:26 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-17006 [...] that gets you up and running on personal health records (PHRs) like Google Health instantly.” Article John Grohol, e-Patients.net, 14 April [...] [...] that gets you up and running on personal health records (PHRs) like Google Health instantly.” Article John Grohol, e-Patients.net, 14 April [...]

]]> By: Google Health Will Not Belly Flop but You Have to Take Charge | CloudAve http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-16966 Google Health Will Not Belly Flop but You Have to Take Charge | CloudAve Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:43:12 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-16966 [...] E-Patient Discovers Significant Flaws in System, Spin Doctors Get to Work [...] [...] E-Patient Discovers Significant Flaws in System, Spin Doctors Get to Work [...]

]]> By: ePatientDave http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/04/e-patient-discovers-significant-flaws-in-system-spin-doctors-get-to-work.html/comment-page-1#comment-50070 ePatientDave Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:13:46 +0000 http://e-patients.net/?p=1930#comment-50070 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@DocJohnG e-patients.net post on how media are fouling up coverage of PHR/Google story. Please fix! http://bit.ly/w541S</span></span> @DocJohnG e-patients.net post on how media are fouling up coverage of PHR/Google story. Please fix! http://bit.ly/w541S

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