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		<title>By: steroids online</title>
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		<dc:creator>steroids online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing that in the old days the medical business was able both to maximize profits and preserve the Doctor as God culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing that in the old days the medical business was able both to maximize profits and preserve the Doctor as God culture.</p>
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		<title>By: ePatientDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>ePatientDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;That&#039;s where I have my &quot;give us our data&quot; talk http://bit.ly/WXmoz. Very good people, on THE committees.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">That&#8217;s where I have my &#8220;give us our data&#8221; talk <a href="http://bit.ly/WXmoz" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/WXmoz</a>. Very good people, on THE committees.</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: ICMCC Website - Articles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “Give us our data”: my talk at the NeHC board meeting</title>
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		<dc:creator>ICMCC Website - Articles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “Give us our data”: my talk at the NeHC board meeting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Article e-Patient Dave, e-Patients.net, 6 June 2009 SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;“Give us our data”: my talk at the NeHC board meeting&quot;, url: &quot;http://articles.icmcc.org/2009/06/08/%e2%80%9cgive-us-our-data%e2%80%9d-my-talk-at-the-nehc-board-meeting/&quot; }); [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Article e-Patient Dave, e-Patients.net, 6 June 2009 SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &#8220;“Give us our data”: my talk at the NeHC board meeting&#8221;, url: &#8220;http://articles.icmcc.org/2009/06/08/%e2%80%9cgive-us-our-data%e2%80%9d-my-talk-at-the-nehc-board-meeting/&#8221; }); [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep up the good work, dave, because there are a lot of people who want the same thing: access to their records. AND, there are even more who don&#039;t know it yet. What&#039;s the old saying? You don&#039;t know what you don&#039;t know? When it comes to EHRs, that could not be more true right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good work, dave, because there are a lot of people who want the same thing: access to their records. AND, there are even more who don&#8217;t know it yet. What&#8217;s the old saying? You don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t know? When it comes to EHRs, that could not be more true right now!</p>
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		<title>By: Headline Commentary May 31-June 7 &#124; Health Content Advisors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Headline Commentary May 31-June 7 &#124; Health Content Advisors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] » “Give us our data”: my talk at the NeHC board meeting &#124; e-Patients.net [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

When a hcp of any sort refuses to hand over copies of a report on the spot, I now say, &quot;That&#039;s ridiculous.  These legally belong to me and you should be able to send them electronically by now.&quot; They don&#039;t send them electronically, but it removes any barrier to my getting a preliminary reading, which saves time and anxiety.  

I also notice that the news media has run some &quot;Question your doctor, he is not God&quot; pieces lately, which encourages patients to question procedures and ask for accountability.  Amazing that in the old days the medical business was able both to maximize profits and preserve the Doctor as God culture. 

So things are not yet where e-patients would like to see them, but there is a sea change in the culture, meaning mainstream media is accepting some of the premises of the movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>When a hcp of any sort refuses to hand over copies of a report on the spot, I now say, &#8220;That&#8217;s ridiculous.  These legally belong to me and you should be able to send them electronically by now.&#8221; They don&#8217;t send them electronically, but it removes any barrier to my getting a preliminary reading, which saves time and anxiety.  </p>
<p>I also notice that the news media has run some &#8220;Question your doctor, he is not God&#8221; pieces lately, which encourages patients to question procedures and ask for accountability.  Amazing that in the old days the medical business was able both to maximize profits and preserve the Doctor as God culture. </p>
<p>So things are not yet where e-patients would like to see them, but there is a sea change in the culture, meaning mainstream media is accepting some of the premises of the movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Feder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Feder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave -- this is an awesome set of slides.  Thanks, from one e-patient to another!

My latest bad data story is ALMOST comical, and introduces another dynamic into the witches brew -- technical glitches and clerical staff without the training/authority to help.  

I had a PET/CT on Saturday and, as is my practice, waited afterward to pick up CDs of the study.  It&#039;s very important that I have them because, while my onc can, at long last, look at the images online, I&#039;m going to Mt. Sinai for a consult tomorrow, which has no connection to my local PACS system.  

When I opened the disc at home, low and behold, it was incomplete.  This has happened to me before (truly, I&#039;ve seen it all).  It was frustrating enough not to be able to see the images that might give me a clue as to how my current TX is working -- even more frustrating that I didn&#039;t have a good set of data to bring to my consult.  

When I called the Radiology desk to let them know about the error and find out if I could get correct copies, they let me know that they&#039;d been having a problem with the system.  Would&#039;ve been nice to hear that before going on a goose chase!  

It&#039;s not 72 hours later, and the system is still broken.  My consult is tomorrow and I may not have the images that, quite frankly, are life and death to me.  

I wish the kind but out of their league clerical staff had told me of a potential problem, or at least checked the discs before they gave them to me.  Even more to the point, I wish someone could figure out how to make the data pipes at my hospital talk to the data pipes at Mt. Sinai so I have a chance of getting the answers I so critically need.

Judy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8212; this is an awesome set of slides.  Thanks, from one e-patient to another!</p>
<p>My latest bad data story is ALMOST comical, and introduces another dynamic into the witches brew &#8212; technical glitches and clerical staff without the training/authority to help.  </p>
<p>I had a PET/CT on Saturday and, as is my practice, waited afterward to pick up CDs of the study.  It&#8217;s very important that I have them because, while my onc can, at long last, look at the images online, I&#8217;m going to Mt. Sinai for a consult tomorrow, which has no connection to my local PACS system.  </p>
<p>When I opened the disc at home, low and behold, it was incomplete.  This has happened to me before (truly, I&#8217;ve seen it all).  It was frustrating enough not to be able to see the images that might give me a clue as to how my current TX is working &#8212; even more frustrating that I didn&#8217;t have a good set of data to bring to my consult.  </p>
<p>When I called the Radiology desk to let them know about the error and find out if I could get correct copies, they let me know that they&#8217;d been having a problem with the system.  Would&#8217;ve been nice to hear that before going on a goose chase!  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not 72 hours later, and the system is still broken.  My consult is tomorrow and I may not have the images that, quite frankly, are life and death to me.  </p>
<p>I wish the kind but out of their league clerical staff had told me of a potential problem, or at least checked the discs before they gave them to me.  Even more to the point, I wish someone could figure out how to make the data pipes at my hospital talk to the data pipes at Mt. Sinai so I have a chance of getting the answers I so critically need.</p>
<p>Judy</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Stones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Stones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Emr system is in its initial stages to be connected nation wide in the US. Well i must say very informative video and agree with the view of Dr.Tom Fergusion about system to be followed in health care sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Emr system is in its initial stages to be connected nation wide in the US. Well i must say very informative video and agree with the view of Dr.Tom Fergusion about system to be followed in health care sector.</p>
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		<title>By: ePatientDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>ePatientDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;1. Saturday on e-patients.net: &quot;Give us our data&quot; - my talk at NeHC Tuesday http://is.gd/R5Pf  &lt;==*Now with embedded video*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">1. Saturday on e-patients.net: &#8220;Give us our data&#8221; &#8211; my talk at NeHC Tuesday <a href="http://is.gd/R5Pf" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/R5Pf</a>  &lt;==*Now with embedded video*</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: ePatientDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>ePatientDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New on e-patients.net: &quot;Give us our data&quot;: my talk at the NeHC board mtg http://is.gd/R5Pf (w/ slides &amp; video)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New on e-patients.net: &#8220;Give us our data&#8221;: my talk at the NeHC board mtg <a href="http://is.gd/R5Pf" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/R5Pf</a> (w/ slides &#038; video)</span></span></span></p>
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