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		<title>By: macbook cases</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-62523</link>
		<dc:creator>macbook cases</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 05:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please never let your opinions and insightful knowldge be squelched, shaped, or distorted.  The information you provided here regardless of its complexity or simplicity has made a major impact on my epistemological groundwork and will not be forgotten.  Livestrong blogger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please never let your opinions and insightful knowldge be squelched, shaped, or distorted.  The information you provided here regardless of its complexity or simplicity has made a major impact on my epistemological groundwork and will not be forgotten.  Livestrong blogger!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Einarsen</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-49105</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Einarsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the FDA Social Media hearings via the webcast, and there were more groups who represented consumers / patients in the agenda than you think.

They were:

• Kim Witczak (as you already mentioned), who spoke twice

• Consumers Union (publishers of Consumers Reports), who certainly believe they speak for the average consumer

• National Research Center for Women &amp; Families, who believe they speak for consumers, who spoke twice

• PEW Prescription Project, a public non-profit that does research for the public good

Now, having said that, the meeting was certainly populated with more commercial entities. I know there was buzz about it before it happened. 

Diana Zuckerman of the National Research Center for Women &amp; Families was asked why there were so few representatives of the patient at the hearings, the FDA certainly would have made room in the agenda for them, and the hearings were not a secret. Her answer was that the healthcare reform debate was taking all their time.

There is still time for commenting on the hearings. You can go to the FDA site, there is a link for submitting comments at the bottom of the page:

http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/CDER/ucm184250.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the FDA Social Media hearings via the webcast, and there were more groups who represented consumers / patients in the agenda than you think.</p>
<p>They were:</p>
<p>• Kim Witczak (as you already mentioned), who spoke twice</p>
<p>• Consumers Union (publishers of Consumers Reports), who certainly believe they speak for the average consumer</p>
<p>• National Research Center for Women &amp; Families, who believe they speak for consumers, who spoke twice</p>
<p>• PEW Prescription Project, a public non-profit that does research for the public good</p>
<p>Now, having said that, the meeting was certainly populated with more commercial entities. I know there was buzz about it before it happened. </p>
<p>Diana Zuckerman of the National Research Center for Women &amp; Families was asked why there were so few representatives of the patient at the hearings, the FDA certainly would have made room in the agenda for them, and the hearings were not a secret. Her answer was that the healthcare reform debate was taking all their time.</p>
<p>There is still time for commenting on the hearings. You can go to the FDA site, there is a link for submitting comments at the bottom of the page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/CDER/ucm184250.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/CDER/ucm184250.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: FDASM Highlights for UM Stakeholders: Things I&#8217;m Reading &#171; Emerging Technologies Librarian</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-48961</link>
		<dc:creator>FDASM Highlights for UM Stakeholders: Things I&#8217;m Reading &#171; Emerging Technologies Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gilles. #FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose. http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html NOTE: One of the most honest, thoughtful and relevant pieces I&#8217;ve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gilles. #FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose. <a href="http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html" rel="nofollow">http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html</a> NOTE: One of the most honest, thoughtful and relevant pieces I&#8217;ve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: L Copen ill ministry</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-56109</link>
		<dc:creator>L Copen ill ministry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;FDA public hearing “Promotion of FDA-Regulated Medical Products Using the Internet &amp; Social Media Tools” e-Patients.net http://ow.ly/BZN9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">FDA public hearing “Promotion of FDA-Regulated Medical Products Using the Internet &amp; Social Media Tools” e-Patients.net <a href="http://ow.ly/BZN9" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/BZN9</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50210</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @randallhood: LA Times reporting Pfizer omitted information on the investigation of their drug, Neurontin. &lt;= Read http://bit.ly/3aeUOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @randallhood: LA Times reporting Pfizer omitted information on the investigation of their drug, Neurontin. &lt;= Read <a href="http://bit.ly/3aeUOR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3aeUOR</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-48616</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understood the commercials for medical products. I always trust my doctor to prescribe me whatever he/she thinks I need. &quot;Ask your doctor about...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood the commercials for medical products. I always trust my doctor to prescribe me whatever he/she thinks I need. &#8220;Ask your doctor about&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50211</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Talking about AE reporting? Read  #FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose  http://bit.ly/3aeUOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Talking about AE reporting? Read  #FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose  <a href="http://bit.ly/3aeUOR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3aeUOR</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Spong</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50212</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Spong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Did everyone see @gfry&#039;s post? http://is.gd/4U32M #hcsmeu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Did everyone see @gfry&#39;s post? <a href="http://is.gd/4U32M" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/4U32M</a> #hcsmeu</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: carlosrizo</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-55948</link>
		<dc:creator>carlosrizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;READ! RT @ChristineKraft: A &quot;balls-out&quot; post by @gfry detailing marginalization of the patient perspective by #FDAsm http://bit.ly/3aeUOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">READ! RT @ChristineKraft: A &quot;balls-out&quot; post by @gfry detailing marginalization of the patient perspective by #FDAsm <a href="http://bit.ly/3aeUOR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3aeUOR</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Spong</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50213</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Spong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://e-patients.net/?p=3783#comment-50213</guid>
		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@gfry added to my epatient pantheon for foregrounding the needs of those without a voice at #fdasm: ppl who are patients http://is.gd/4U32M&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@gfry added to my epatient pantheon for foregrounding the needs of those without a voice at #fdasm: ppl who are patients <a href="http://is.gd/4U32M" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/4U32M</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-54722</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose. A patient advocate perspective on e-patients.net http://bit.ly/3aeUOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose. A patient advocate perspective on e-patients.net <a href="http://bit.ly/3aeUOR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3aeUOR</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: nwatzman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50214</link>
		<dc:creator>nwatzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;FDA hearing on online communications 2day &amp; tomorrow, only 1 consumer rep amng 59 presenters, e-patientsnet #FDASM: http://bit.ly/3aeUOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">FDA hearing on online communications 2day &amp; tomorrow, only 1 consumer rep amng 59 presenters, e-patientsnet #FDASM: <a href="http://bit.ly/3aeUOR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3aeUOR</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50215</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @alinahsu: RT @JourPM: #fdasm Patients: the invisible stakeholder. // sad, isn&#039;t it? &lt;= Not sad. Just disgusting! http://bit.ly/3aeUOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @alinahsu: RT @JourPM: #fdasm Patients: the invisible stakeholder. // sad, isn&#39;t it? &lt;= Not sad. Just disgusting! <a href="http://bit.ly/3aeUOR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3aeUOR</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Emrich</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-55949</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;View of e-patient needed. #fdasm RT @ePatientDave @GFry : folly of FDA meeting having no internet... only 1 patient rep. http://is.gd/4Tp2v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">View of e-patient needed. #fdasm RT @ePatientDave @GFry : folly of FDA meeting having no internet&#8230; only 1 patient rep. <a href="http://is.gd/4Tp2v" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/4Tp2v</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Emrich</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-55950</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;View of e-patient needed. RT @ePatientDave @GFry : folly of FDA meeting having no internet and... only 1 patient rep. http://is.gd/4Tp2v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">View of e-patient needed. RT @ePatientDave @GFry : folly of FDA meeting having no internet and&#8230; only 1 patient rep. <a href="http://is.gd/4Tp2v" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/4Tp2v</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: ePatientDave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50216</link>
		<dc:creator>ePatientDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#fdasm Powerful @GFry post: folly of FDA meeting having no internet or phone access and only 1 patient rep. http://is.gd/4Tp2v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#fdasm Powerful @GFry post: folly of FDA meeting having no internet or phone access and only 1 patient rep. <a href="http://is.gd/4Tp2v" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/4Tp2v</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/fdasm-ca-change-cest-la-meme-chose.html/comment-page-1#comment-50217</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose. A patient advocate perspective on e-patients.net http://bit.ly/3aeUOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#FDASM: + ca change, + c’est la meme chose. A patient advocate perspective on e-patients.net <a href="http://bit.ly/3aeUOR" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3aeUOR</a></span></span></span></p>
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