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		<title>By: Nabin Sapkota, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabin Sapkota, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 19:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This distinction between informed choice and informed consent is not just a concept. It is a daily practical matter to me. Informed consent has unfortunately become nothing more than a piece of paper required for legal purposes. Many patients seem to be happy with this “just sign here” approach to getting things done without having to think about it. One aspect of consumer driven healthcare is that patients, like other consumers, have started to think that more is better. They want more done for their money as they tend to view the “watchful waiting” approach as counterproductive. 

As “informed consent” has become just a formality, it is up to the individual doctor to really give the patient a “informed choice” if one exists. Informed choice is the real informal discussion to actually make the shared healthcare decision based on patient’s best interest. The choice can be as simple as choosing between two blood pressure pills, a new pill with a high co-pay and slightly better side effect profile or a time tested classic pill available on the Walmart $4 generic list. Currently, this decision is mostly based on the style and personality of the doctor. But, I believe that a decision like that should be based on the patient’s personality and beliefs.

At other times, the decision can be between a cardiac cath and medical management of heart disease. Sadly, in such cases, informed consent only comes onto play when the decision has been made to get the cardiac cath. It takes a lot of integrity on the part of the cardiologist to truly give a “informed choice” between the two options if you just look at the process from a pure consumer point of view. Can you imagine a car salesman giving impartial advice to help the costumer decide if he really needs a new car?

 There are times when one approach is clearly better than the other but there are also times when it again comes down to the doctor’s personal preference and practice style where it should have been the patient’s preference and personality. 

Personally, I think this problem needs a change in attitude of both parties. We need more patients to demand a clear choice when it exists. They have to understand that sometimes it is choice between doing something and not doing anything at all. Patient leaders here can help them know their choices. On the other hand, doctors need to understand that the choices are for the patients, not for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This distinction between informed choice and informed consent is not just a concept. It is a daily practical matter to me. Informed consent has unfortunately become nothing more than a piece of paper required for legal purposes. Many patients seem to be happy with this “just sign here” approach to getting things done without having to think about it. One aspect of consumer driven healthcare is that patients, like other consumers, have started to think that more is better. They want more done for their money as they tend to view the “watchful waiting” approach as counterproductive. </p>
<p>As “informed consent” has become just a formality, it is up to the individual doctor to really give the patient a “informed choice” if one exists. Informed choice is the real informal discussion to actually make the shared healthcare decision based on patient’s best interest. The choice can be as simple as choosing between two blood pressure pills, a new pill with a high co-pay and slightly better side effect profile or a time tested classic pill available on the Walmart $4 generic list. Currently, this decision is mostly based on the style and personality of the doctor. But, I believe that a decision like that should be based on the patient’s personality and beliefs.</p>
<p>At other times, the decision can be between a cardiac cath and medical management of heart disease. Sadly, in such cases, informed consent only comes onto play when the decision has been made to get the cardiac cath. It takes a lot of integrity on the part of the cardiologist to truly give a “informed choice” between the two options if you just look at the process from a pure consumer point of view. Can you imagine a car salesman giving impartial advice to help the costumer decide if he really needs a new car?</p>
<p> There are times when one approach is clearly better than the other but there are also times when it again comes down to the doctor’s personal preference and practice style where it should have been the patient’s preference and personality. </p>
<p>Personally, I think this problem needs a change in attitude of both parties. We need more patients to demand a clear choice when it exists. They have to understand that sometimes it is choice between doing something and not doing anything at all. Patient leaders here can help them know their choices. On the other hand, doctors need to understand that the choices are for the patients, not for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Luks</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/shared-decision-making-informed-consent-v-informed-choice.html/comment-page-1#comment-50180</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Luks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chukwuma Onyeije</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chukwuma Onyeije</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard and I have shared our thoughts regarding cases in which patients would rather play a deliberately passive role.  To some extent, this is a choice that should be appreciated and respected... as long as it is a truly &quot;informed&quot; choice.  

Regarding cases in which the patient refuses to participate in decision making I think it becomes incumbent on the provider to tease out the reasons for this (apparent) reluctance.  Some reasons for refusal to participate in decision making may be addressed as separate issues to bring the patient into the process. 

I&#039;m thinking of educational background, societal expectations, language barriers and the structure of the medical visit (ie patient feels rushed and does not think that questions or discussion would be welcome).

In the past, such patients were almost a &quot;bonus&quot; to clinicians because they were less labor intensive, they moved the schedule along and went along with what was being proposed.  

My suspicion is that the compliance by patients who were not actively involved in decision-making was less than optimal.

In an environment where ePatients are increasingly advocating to become participants in their own care, it will be important for care providers to get a grasp on whether or not all of our patients are participating in care decisions in a way that assures optimal outcomes.  We certainly do not want to create an &quot;ePatient divide&quot; or a multitiered system of health information.

Thanks again, Howard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard and I have shared our thoughts regarding cases in which patients would rather play a deliberately passive role.  To some extent, this is a choice that should be appreciated and respected&#8230; as long as it is a truly &#8220;informed&#8221; choice.  </p>
<p>Regarding cases in which the patient refuses to participate in decision making I think it becomes incumbent on the provider to tease out the reasons for this (apparent) reluctance.  Some reasons for refusal to participate in decision making may be addressed as separate issues to bring the patient into the process. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of educational background, societal expectations, language barriers and the structure of the medical visit (ie patient feels rushed and does not think that questions or discussion would be welcome).</p>
<p>In the past, such patients were almost a &#8220;bonus&#8221; to clinicians because they were less labor intensive, they moved the schedule along and went along with what was being proposed.  </p>
<p>My suspicion is that the compliance by patients who were not actively involved in decision-making was less than optimal.</p>
<p>In an environment where ePatients are increasingly advocating to become participants in their own care, it will be important for care providers to get a grasp on whether or not all of our patients are participating in care decisions in a way that assures optimal outcomes.  We certainly do not want to create an &#8220;ePatient divide&#8221; or a multitiered system of health information.</p>
<p>Thanks again, Howard.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Ahier</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/shared-decision-making-informed-consent-v-informed-choice.html/comment-page-1#comment-48864</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Ahier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Howard! I am still sometimes shocked when I speak to folks that want practically no information about their condition. There are still some who just want to be told what to do.
It will be interesting to see any possible adjustments to how a PCMH model is implemented in situations where the patient refuses to participate in decision making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Howard! I am still sometimes shocked when I speak to folks that want practically no information about their condition. There are still some who just want to be told what to do.<br />
It will be interesting to see any possible adjustments to how a PCMH model is implemented in situations where the patient refuses to participate in decision making.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Luks</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/shared-decision-making-informed-consent-v-informed-choice.html/comment-page-1#comment-48863</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Luks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am honored to be recognized by your organization and I look forward to working with you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am honored to be recognized by your organization and I look forward to working with you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sharp</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/shared-decision-making-informed-consent-v-informed-choice.html/comment-page-1#comment-48862</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AHRQ is supporting this concept with their 10 questions
http://www.ahrq.gov/questionsaretheanswer/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AHRQ is supporting this concept with their 10 questions<br />
<a href="http://www.ahrq.gov/questionsaretheanswer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahrq.gov/questionsaretheanswer/</a></p>
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