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		<title>By: Guest post: Overcoming &#8220;battle fatigue&#8221; in an online support community &#124; e-Patients.net</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-85319</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest post: Overcoming &#8220;battle fatigue&#8221; in an online support community &#124; e-Patients.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people face cancer and the threat of death differently. Two years ago SPM co-founder Gilles Frydman expressed his concerns about the term &#8220;war on cancer.&#8221; Linnea&#8217;s post acknowledges that many people have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people face cancer and the threat of death differently. Two years ago SPM co-founder Gilles Frydman expressed his concerns about the term &#8220;war on cancer.&#8221; Linnea&#8217;s post acknowledges that many people have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AnneMarie Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-52612</link>
		<dc:creator>AnneMarie Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @gfry: @ePatientDave These # help understand the daunting task for scientists. Term &quot;war against cancer&quot; ever more ridiculous http://bit.ly/7sTtFn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @gfry: @ePatientDave These # help understand the daunting task for scientists. Term &quot;war against cancer&quot; ever more ridiculous <a href="http://bit.ly/7sTtFn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7sTtFn</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-52610</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@ePatientDave These # help understand the daunting task for scientists. Term &quot;war against cancer&quot; ever more ridiculous http://bit.ly/7sTtFn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@ePatientDave These # help understand the daunting task for scientists. Term &quot;war against cancer&quot; ever more ridiculous <a href="http://bit.ly/7sTtFn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7sTtFn</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: tom rich</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-52026</link>
		<dc:creator>tom rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About prostate cancer,It is important to remember that your doctor does not necessarily think you have cancer if he or she suggests a screening test. Screening tests are given when you have no cancer symptoms. Screening tests may be repeated on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About prostate cancer,It is important to remember that your doctor does not necessarily think you have cancer if he or she suggests a screening test. Screening tests are given when you have no cancer symptoms. Screening tests may be repeated on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Joseph</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-49354</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great examples.  Thanks also for your kind words.  Can&#039;t say I was speaking for my org in posting here, but would welcome the chance to talk with you to learn more.  Am new to this site (connection through S. Fox).  Have read the e-patients white paper, which is really something and followed some excellent threads.  Don&#039;t think I have your email but will follow up on Twitter.  Cheers - JJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great examples.  Thanks also for your kind words.  Can&#8217;t say I was speaking for my org in posting here, but would welcome the chance to talk with you to learn more.  Am new to this site (connection through S. Fox).  Have read the e-patients white paper, which is really something and followed some excellent threads.  Don&#8217;t think I have your email but will follow up on Twitter.  Cheers &#8211; JJ</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-49303</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Joseph!

I&#039;m thrilled you enjoyed the post. Thank you for directing me to this wonderful book.

There must be something in the air. Just yesterday the Guardian blog posted a parallel and fantastic piece by Mike Marqusee: 
&lt;strong&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t need a war to fight my cancer. I need empowering as a patient&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;i&gt;Using the martial metaphor for something as complex as cancer makes the disease ripe for political and financial exploitation.&lt;/i&gt;

Here are 2 paragraphs, which I found exceptionally clear:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Many cancer therapies are blunt instruments. They attack not only cancer cells but everything else in sight. This is one reason people fear cancer: the treatment can be brutal. Making it less brutal would be a huge stride forwards for people with cancer. And that requires not a top-down military strategy, with its win or lose approach, but greater access to information, wider participation in decision-making (across hierarchies and disciplines) and empowerment of the patient.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Cancer treatment involves extensive interaction with institutions (hospitals, clinics, social services, the NHS itself). Even in the best hospitals, the loss of freedom and dependence on anonymous forces can be oppressive. Many cancer patients find themselves involved in a long and taxing struggle for autonomy – a rarely acknowledged reality of the war on cancer, in which the generals call the shots from afar.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As an aside I would be thrilled to discuss with you and your fantastic organization, both as an individual and as a founder of the Society for Participatory Medicine, the possibility to develop programs to raise the public awareness about the great benefits (necessity?) of becoming informed e-patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Joseph!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thrilled you enjoyed the post. Thank you for directing me to this wonderful book.</p>
<p>There must be something in the air. Just yesterday the Guardian blog posted a parallel and fantastic piece by Mike Marqusee:<br />
<strong>&#8220;I don&#8217;t need a war to fight my cancer. I need empowering as a patient&#8221;</strong> <i>Using the martial metaphor for something as complex as cancer makes the disease ripe for political and financial exploitation.</i></p>
<p>Here are 2 paragraphs, which I found exceptionally clear:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many cancer therapies are blunt instruments. They attack not only cancer cells but everything else in sight. This is one reason people fear cancer: the treatment can be brutal. Making it less brutal would be a huge stride forwards for people with cancer. And that requires not a top-down military strategy, with its win or lose approach, but greater access to information, wider participation in decision-making (across hierarchies and disciplines) and empowerment of the patient.
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Cancer treatment involves extensive interaction with institutions (hospitals, clinics, social services, the NHS itself). Even in the best hospitals, the loss of freedom and dependence on anonymous forces can be oppressive. Many cancer patients find themselves involved in a long and taxing struggle for autonomy – a rarely acknowledged reality of the war on cancer, in which the generals call the shots from afar.
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<p>As an aside I would be thrilled to discuss with you and your fantastic organization, both as an individual and as a founder of the Society for Participatory Medicine, the possibility to develop programs to raise the public awareness about the great benefits (necessity?) of becoming informed e-patients.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Joseph</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-49299</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilles, 

This is a terrific piece. Realize I’m coming late to this discussion and see comments here responding to many of your themes. Would like to also follow up on your good observations about the “war-on-cancer” metaphor and its impact, which deserve another nod.

“War” is a potent metaphor, as you note. Its use in framing the dialogue around cancer has had some positive effects (helping draw attention to the issue and probably making it more accessible), but clearly some negative ones (feeding new fears, narrowing discussion and limiting perceived options).

I think it’s mind blowing how a simple metaphor can have so much sway in directing our thoughts and actions. If you’re interested, there’s a wonderful paper (though maybe a bit academic) by Don Schon, which covers this topic beautifully.  It can be found at: http://bit.ly/5X2G0u  in the book Metaphor and Thought. When you get to the landing page for the book, just click the “contents” tab and then the chapter “A perspective on problem setting,” which starts on p. 137.  

An example of the power of metaphor that has stuck with me begins on p. 144. Will summarize it here for folks that may not have time to read it. Schon describes how, several decades ago, the metaphor “urban blight” was used to characterize inner city “slum” areas and to support the need to eliminate and redesign them from the ground up…from homes to schools to parks and shopping and community centers. As Schon notes, “In this way it was hoped that the cycle of decay could be controlled and the birth of future slums prevented.”  The metaphor of “Blight” fit this story well – blight is a plant disease that easily infects other plants if not fully eradicated. It suggests that slums, like blight, needed to be eradicated or they would spread. Piecemeal efforts to address the problems wouldn’t do.  

But the blight metaphor also minimizes and draws attention away from another equally valid way to frame the issue.  That is, despite their many problems, “slums” are also neighborhoods with vibrant communities.  They are a nexus for social ties, support systems and other key benefits that residents rely on. When these communities are pulled apart, as they were when early renewal projects uprooted and moved them to new housing projects in the name of urban redesign, the systems they support are also destroyed and often prove difficult to rebuild.  

In sum, many of the “solutions” that flowed from the logic of the blight metaphor made matters worse…much like the war on cancer analogy. Of course, these problems were discovered too late for many communities. I don’t think we can or should avoid metaphor but need to do what you and others suggest, which is to look for and challenge the limitations they may convey and to  realize that these limitations may not be immediately obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilles, </p>
<p>This is a terrific piece. Realize I’m coming late to this discussion and see comments here responding to many of your themes. Would like to also follow up on your good observations about the “war-on-cancer” metaphor and its impact, which deserve another nod.</p>
<p>“War” is a potent metaphor, as you note. Its use in framing the dialogue around cancer has had some positive effects (helping draw attention to the issue and probably making it more accessible), but clearly some negative ones (feeding new fears, narrowing discussion and limiting perceived options).</p>
<p>I think it’s mind blowing how a simple metaphor can have so much sway in directing our thoughts and actions. If you’re interested, there’s a wonderful paper (though maybe a bit academic) by Don Schon, which covers this topic beautifully.  It can be found at: <a href="http://bit.ly/5X2G0u" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5X2G0u</a>  in the book Metaphor and Thought. When you get to the landing page for the book, just click the “contents” tab and then the chapter “A perspective on problem setting,” which starts on p. 137.  </p>
<p>An example of the power of metaphor that has stuck with me begins on p. 144. Will summarize it here for folks that may not have time to read it. Schon describes how, several decades ago, the metaphor “urban blight” was used to characterize inner city “slum” areas and to support the need to eliminate and redesign them from the ground up…from homes to schools to parks and shopping and community centers. As Schon notes, “In this way it was hoped that the cycle of decay could be controlled and the birth of future slums prevented.”  The metaphor of “Blight” fit this story well – blight is a plant disease that easily infects other plants if not fully eradicated. It suggests that slums, like blight, needed to be eradicated or they would spread. Piecemeal efforts to address the problems wouldn’t do.  </p>
<p>But the blight metaphor also minimizes and draws attention away from another equally valid way to frame the issue.  That is, despite their many problems, “slums” are also neighborhoods with vibrant communities.  They are a nexus for social ties, support systems and other key benefits that residents rely on. When these communities are pulled apart, as they were when early renewal projects uprooted and moved them to new housing projects in the name of urban redesign, the systems they support are also destroyed and often prove difficult to rebuild.  </p>
<p>In sum, many of the “solutions” that flowed from the logic of the blight metaphor made matters worse…much like the war on cancer analogy. Of course, these problems were discovered too late for many communities. I don’t think we can or should avoid metaphor but need to do what you and others suggest, which is to look for and challenge the limitations they may convey and to  realize that these limitations may not be immediately obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-49960</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;WOW! Terrorized By The ‘War On Cancer’ http://bit.ly/7sTtFn &amp; &#039;I don&#039;t need a war to fight my cancer&#039;  http://bit.ly/92jUT5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">WOW! Terrorized By The ‘War On Cancer’ <a href="http://bit.ly/7sTtFn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7sTtFn</a> &amp; &#39;I don&#39;t need a war to fight my cancer&#39;  <a href="http://bit.ly/92jUT5" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/92jUT5</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Terrorized by the &#8216;War on Cancer&#8217; &#187; ACOR Blog</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-49155</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrorized by the &#8216;War on Cancer&#8217; &#187; ACOR Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new breast cancer screening recommendations we have just experienced an historical case of &#8220;moral panic&#8221; producing a never ending volley of denialism, distortions and abuse of expert clinical [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Science &#38; Sensibility &#187; What SUVs Can Teach Us About Maternity Care</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48956</link>
		<dc:creator>Science &#38; Sensibility &#187; What SUVs Can Teach Us About Maternity Care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the compact hybrid&#8230;The ACOG hospital model is neither sustainable nor affordable.&#8221; In a thoughtful post about military terminology and philosophy in healthcare at e-Patients.net, again conversation turned to the American enhusiasm for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the compact hybrid&#8230;The ACOG hospital model is neither sustainable nor affordable.&#8221; In a thoughtful post about military terminology and philosophy in healthcare at e-Patients.net, again conversation turned to the American enhusiasm for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48901</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Nietzsche said: &quot;There are no facts, only interpretations.&quot; This is especially true when facts are inconvenient to the goal at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Nietzsche said: &#8220;There are no facts, only interpretations.&#8221; This is especially true when facts are inconvenient to the goal at hand.</p>
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		<title>By: cynthia manley</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-55847</link>
		<dc:creator>cynthia manley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @SusannahFox: Post-holiday must-catch-up-on: @gfry incited debate with his post, Terrorized By The &#039;War On Cancer&#039; http://bit.ly/7sTtFn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @SusannahFox: Post-holiday must-catch-up-on: @gfry incited debate with his post, Terrorized By The &#39;War On Cancer&#39; <a href="http://bit.ly/7sTtFn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7sTtFn</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48861</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made a fantastic point in this article: more health care is not necessarily better than good health care. You can see all the doctors you want, but if you are misdiagnosed, it doesn&#039;t mean a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made a fantastic point in this article: more health care is not necessarily better than good health care. You can see all the doctors you want, but if you are misdiagnosed, it doesn&#8217;t mean a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Smith</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48857</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I think the USPSTF is guilty of distributing dangerous information.  So what&#039;s a person to do.  What you are telling me is all the more reason to continue to get screened and go to a good center (or at least get a second opinion) before reaching decisions.  I suspect that  the reality on the ground is that mammograms and PSA tests will help, but only with proper follow up  --- that seems to be the experience of so many folks I know that i can&#039;t discount them all as anecdotes -- and USPSTF should say so, not that the value of screening is unproven, but that screening will work best with good follow up.  Unfortunately many will be discouraged from screening, insurance standards may change to exclude those unable to get good car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I think the USPSTF is guilty of distributing dangerous information.  So what&#8217;s a person to do.  What you are telling me is all the more reason to continue to get screened and go to a good center (or at least get a second opinion) before reaching decisions.  I suspect that  the reality on the ground is that mammograms and PSA tests will help, but only with proper follow up  &#8212; that seems to be the experience of so many folks I know that i can&#8217;t discount them all as anecdotes &#8212; and USPSTF should say so, not that the value of screening is unproven, but that screening will work best with good follow up.  Unfortunately many will be discouraged from screening, insurance standards may change to exclude those unable to get good car.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Smith</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48856</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what&#039;s a person to do.  What you are telling me is all the more reason to continue to get screened and go to a good center (or at least get a second opinion) before reaching decisions.  I suspect that  the reality on the ground is that mammograms and PSA tests will help, but only with proper follow up  --- that seems to be the experience of so many folks I know that i can&#039;t discount them all as anecdotes -- and USPSTF should say so, not that the value of screening is unproven, but that screening will work best with good follow up.  Unfortunately many will be discouraged from screening, insurance standards may change to exclude those unable to get good car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s a person to do.  What you are telling me is all the more reason to continue to get screened and go to a good center (or at least get a second opinion) before reaching decisions.  I suspect that  the reality on the ground is that mammograms and PSA tests will help, but only with proper follow up  &#8212; that seems to be the experience of so many folks I know that i can&#8217;t discount them all as anecdotes &#8212; and USPSTF should say so, not that the value of screening is unproven, but that screening will work best with good follow up.  Unfortunately many will be discouraged from screening, insurance standards may change to exclude those unable to get good car.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48854</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,

you are giving the USPSTF a role it doesn&#039;t have! Have you ever looked at their mandate? Here it is:
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The Task Force makes its recommendations on the basis of explicit criteria. Recommendations issued by the USPSTF are intended for use in the primary care setting. 
&lt;/strong&gt;

Their job is not to look at best centers but to come up with recommendations for the entire population, based on the reality on the ground and the best scientific evidence available at the time of their &quot;evolving&quot; recommendations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,</p>
<p>you are giving the USPSTF a role it doesn&#8217;t have! Have you ever looked at their mandate? Here it is:<br />
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<strong>The Task Force makes its recommendations on the basis of explicit criteria. Recommendations issued by the USPSTF are intended for use in the primary care setting.<br />
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<p>Their job is not to look at best centers but to come up with recommendations for the entire population, based on the reality on the ground and the best scientific evidence available at the time of their &#8220;evolving&#8221; recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-49961</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Post-holiday must-catch-up-on: @gfry incited debate with his post, Terrorized By The &#039;War On Cancer&#039; http://bit.ly/7sTtFn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Post-holiday must-catch-up-on: @gfry incited debate with his post, Terrorized By The &#39;War On Cancer&#39; <a href="http://bit.ly/7sTtFn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7sTtFn</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lee Smith</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48851</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read some of it.  What in particular are you referring to.  what is more important to me is the publicity it&#039;s getting.  This is one in a series of critiques of screening and I admit to being &quot;biased&quot; against the USPSTF approach based on their long standing negativity about PSA testing.  So my comments are not focused on specifics but on a general approach.  What does USPSTF say about the cascade of events and pathways involved on their studies and about the role of less than adequate practitioners in confounding their data.  Have they taken a best practices role of looking at the best centers and seeing what they come up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read some of it.  What in particular are you referring to.  what is more important to me is the publicity it&#8217;s getting.  This is one in a series of critiques of screening and I admit to being &#8220;biased&#8221; against the USPSTF approach based on their long standing negativity about PSA testing.  So my comments are not focused on specifics but on a general approach.  What does USPSTF say about the cascade of events and pathways involved on their studies and about the role of less than adequate practitioners in confounding their data.  Have they taken a best practices role of looking at the best centers and seeing what they come up with.</p>
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		<title>By: ePatientDave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-49962</link>
		<dc:creator>ePatientDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@StaticNrg A vigorous &amp; good exchange this weekend: @GFry &quot;Terrorized by the &#039;War on Cancer&#039;&quot; http://is.gd/57jK4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@StaticNrg A vigorous &amp; good exchange this weekend: @GFry &quot;Terrorized by the &#39;War on Cancer&#39;&quot; <a href="http://is.gd/57jK4" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/57jK4</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2009/11/terrorized-by-the-war-on-cancer.html/comment-page-1#comment-48845</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Com&#039;on, Dave :-)

You say &quot;some completely convincing study showed that mammography saves X number of lives&quot;. That is &lt;strong&gt;EXACTLY&lt;/strong&gt; the issue. There are conflicting studies and the studies in use have conflicted methodologies with both sides attacking the way data was collected and analyzed. For an understanding to &quot;SOME&quot; of the historical elements, read &lt;a href=&quot;http://theoncologist.alphamedpress.org/cgi/content/full/7/3/174&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the mammography controversy&lt;/a&gt;, an article from Colin Begg in 2002. A summary: &quot;The appropriateness of screening mammography has emerged once again as a contentious issue. This report brings readers up-to-date with the latest developments in this long-running controversy.&quot;    

+ ca change + c&#039;est la meme chose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Com&#8217;on, Dave :-)</p>
<p>You say &#8220;some completely convincing study showed that mammography saves X number of lives&#8221;. That is <strong>EXACTLY</strong> the issue. There are conflicting studies and the studies in use have conflicted methodologies with both sides attacking the way data was collected and analyzed. For an understanding to &#8220;SOME&#8221; of the historical elements, read <a href="http://theoncologist.alphamedpress.org/cgi/content/full/7/3/174" rel="nofollow">the mammography controversy</a>, an article from Colin Begg in 2002. A summary: &#8220;The appropriateness of screening mammography has emerged once again as a contentious issue. This report brings readers up-to-date with the latest developments in this long-running controversy.&#8221;    </p>
<p>+ ca change + c&#8217;est la meme chose!</p>
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