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		<title>By: Health 2.0 Europe: A Moveable Feast &#124; e-Patients.net</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-52522</link>
		<dc:creator>Health 2.0 Europe: A Moveable Feast &#124; e-Patients.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about some of the topics that the Patients and Online Communities panel would discuss. My post, &#8220;Privacy can kill, openness can heal,&#8221; kicked off a discussion about health data rights, the role of health professionals, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about some of the topics that the Patients and Online Communities panel would discuss. My post, &#8220;Privacy can kill, openness can heal,&#8221; kicked off a discussion about health data rights, the role of health professionals, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Spong</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-52253</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Spong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @SusannahFox: Conversation around #health2eu panel on patient networks started back in Feb: http://bit.ly/aolNPF&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @SusannahFox: Conversation around #health2eu panel on patient networks started back in Feb: <a href="http://bit.ly/aolNPF" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aolNPF</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-52252</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Conversation around #health2eu panel on patient networks started back in Feb: http://bit.ly/aolNPF&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Conversation around #health2eu panel on patient networks started back in Feb: <a href="http://bit.ly/aolNPF" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aolNPF</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-51796</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@Berci Sharing stories vs. data, also see: http://bit.ly/aolNPF (it&#039;s what @gfry &amp; I hope our #health2eu panel on communities will address)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@Berci Sharing stories vs. data, also see: <a href="http://bit.ly/aolNPF" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aolNPF</a> (it&#39;s what @gfry &amp; I hope our #health2eu panel on communities will address)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: ePatientDave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-51029</link>
		<dc:creator>ePatientDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Very interesting @GFry comment on @SusannahFox &quot;Privacy can kill&quot; post - EU&#039;s different view of life thus health http://is.gd/8LYIc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Very interesting @GFry comment on @SusannahFox &quot;Privacy can kill&quot; post &#8211; EU&#39;s different view of life thus health <a href="http://is.gd/8LYIc" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/8LYIc</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-51020</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Germans lack a culture of knowledge-sharing? A French cardiologist is OK w/cigarettes? Read on: http://bit.ly/bz69DN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Germans lack a culture of knowledge-sharing? A French cardiologist is OK w/cigarettes? Read on: <a href="http://bit.ly/bz69DN" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bz69DN</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-51014</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might also be interesting to look into differences about how people in Europe define health and how it relates to medicine and culture.

Hearing a French cardiologist telling an 80 year-old person &quot;Please do not stop smoking! I want you to limit the number of cigarettes you smoke daily but stopping completely could have more detrimental effects than the expected benefits&quot; reminded me that many people in Europe really look at life in different ways as Americans do. This in turn, has a strong impact about they look at medical issues as diverse as  what procedures to reimburse, what&#039;s the significance of activated patients or how to deal with end of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might also be interesting to look into differences about how people in Europe define health and how it relates to medicine and culture.</p>
<p>Hearing a French cardiologist telling an 80 year-old person &#8220;Please do not stop smoking! I want you to limit the number of cigarettes you smoke daily but stopping completely could have more detrimental effects than the expected benefits&#8221; reminded me that many people in Europe really look at life in different ways as Americans do. This in turn, has a strong impact about they look at medical issues as diverse as  what procedures to reimburse, what&#8217;s the significance of activated patients or how to deal with end of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Susannah Fox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-51013</link>
		<dc:creator>Susannah Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Denise! 

I hope we can explore topics beyond the cultural, but I was intrigued by a comment left on Jarvis&#039;s blog by a German (scroll to what is currently the last comment on the Privacy Paradox essay):

&quot;We lack a culture of sharing our knowledge.&quot;

Is that really true? And if so, what form does patient engagement take if there is not a strong ethic of pooling knowledge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Denise! </p>
<p>I hope we can explore topics beyond the cultural, but I was intrigued by a comment left on Jarvis&#8217;s blog by a German (scroll to what is currently the last comment on the Privacy Paradox essay):</p>
<p>&#8220;We lack a culture of sharing our knowledge.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that really true? And if so, what form does patient engagement take if there is not a strong ethic of pooling knowledge?</p>
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		<title>By: ines hernando</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50983</link>
		<dc:creator>ines hernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be interesting to hear the panel&#039;s views on how different health systems might influence consumer attitudes towards patients communities. 

In European Health systems access to your GP or primary care doctor is a relatively easy one, and there is where most people get information about healthy habits, public health campaigns, etc. 

Does this mean that in the Pre-diagnosis phase Jen refers they might have less incentives to participate in online communities ?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be interesting to hear the panel&#8217;s views on how different health systems might influence consumer attitudes towards patients communities. </p>
<p>In European Health systems access to your GP or primary care doctor is a relatively easy one, and there is where most people get information about healthy habits, public health campaigns, etc. </p>
<p>Does this mean that in the Pre-diagnosis phase Jen refers they might have less incentives to participate in online communities ?.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Bell</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50955</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Privacy is still a very thorny issue.  I want my medical information available to me, but not to be used against me.  

My cancer diagnosis has become public information over the years, because of my activism.  I haven&#039;t been in a situation where it would threaten my employment.  But - it could have.  I was very aware of that, and stayed employed at large companies, which were less likely to use it against me.

I realize that is against the law, but it does happen.  That is the reason, also, why many people use aliases on ACOR and other social networks, and why ACOR is not searchable by Google (at least, not now).  I just googled myself and no ACOR link came up, at all (after 80+ pages).

I think the key issue is how to make health information easily available to the people who really need it, without violating their right to privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privacy is still a very thorny issue.  I want my medical information available to me, but not to be used against me.  </p>
<p>My cancer diagnosis has become public information over the years, because of my activism.  I haven&#8217;t been in a situation where it would threaten my employment.  But &#8211; it could have.  I was very aware of that, and stayed employed at large companies, which were less likely to use it against me.</p>
<p>I realize that is against the law, but it does happen.  That is the reason, also, why many people use aliases on ACOR and other social networks, and why ACOR is not searchable by Google (at least, not now).  I just googled myself and no ACOR link came up, at all (after 80+ pages).</p>
<p>I think the key issue is how to make health information easily available to the people who really need it, without violating their right to privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hogg</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-55647</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@SusannahFox Really good comment thread on your post.  Interesting discussion and seems lots to talk about in Paris. http://bit.ly/d04odn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@SusannahFox Really good comment thread on your post.  Interesting discussion and seems lots to talk about in Paris. <a href="http://bit.ly/d04odn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/d04odn</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Denise Silber</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50899</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise Silber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Susannah. Looking forward to seeing you soon. This multi-country crowd wants to hear about the issues such as  privacy and business models yes but especially about potential differences among countries. 
What discoveries if any about consumer behavior in communities or in regard to communities have been made uniquely in Italy, Germany, UK, US, the countries on your panel (+ a question from the floor on France). People think that &quot;their&quot; country or region is different. I believe that the fundamentals are the same in Europe and North America; only the size of the consumer segments may vary, for example, on willingness to share, desire to be pro-active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susannah. Looking forward to seeing you soon. This multi-country crowd wants to hear about the issues such as  privacy and business models yes but especially about potential differences among countries.<br />
What discoveries if any about consumer behavior in communities or in regard to communities have been made uniquely in Italy, Germany, UK, US, the countries on your panel (+ a question from the floor on France). People think that &#8220;their&#8221; country or region is different. I believe that the fundamentals are the same in Europe and North America; only the size of the consumer segments may vary, for example, on willingness to share, desire to be pro-active.</p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50881</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Clinical trials, IRBs, and HIPAA: a thorny comment on e-patients.net: http://bit.ly/cbGp93 #WhyPM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Clinical trials, IRBs, and HIPAA: a thorny comment on e-patients.net: <a href="http://bit.ly/cbGp93" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cbGp93</a> #WhyPM</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: SusannahFox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50877</link>
		<dc:creator>SusannahFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@berlin_health20 @health20paris @boltyboy We got an early start on the patients &amp; online communities panel: join us! http://bit.ly/aolNPF&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@berlin_health20 @health20paris @boltyboy We got an early start on the patients &amp; online communities panel: join us! <a href="http://bit.ly/aolNPF" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aolNPF</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: DarthMed</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50889</link>
		<dc:creator>DarthMed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susannah - thank you for inviting some additional questions for the panel. How about....

1. Patient communities and profitability... What does the money really look like? If the business is simply a profiled patient panel, how can/will a group of 8,000 patients compare against market research panels that exceed 10-20x those sizes? Would patients be willing to pay? What implications will this (lack of) business model have for the further investment in / development of patient communities.

2. Where do all the patients go....? 51% of people use the internet for health ... but only 60,000 people registered for CureTogether (since 2008) + PatientsLikeMe (since 2004) ... and only a small fraction of those registrants are active. How many more years do we need to wait before we see this wave of  &#039;active online engagement&#039; materializing? In the end, if the business model (see (1) above) needs to shift to premium services, how many of today&#039;s users would actually pay?

3. Show us some data...! These conferences have become very good at showcasing new &#039;online communities&#039; instead of encouraging presentation of data that can help quantify / evaluate the healthcare benefits of patient communities.

...just some ideas to stir the pot ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susannah &#8211; thank you for inviting some additional questions for the panel. How about&#8230;.</p>
<p>1. Patient communities and profitability&#8230; What does the money really look like? If the business is simply a profiled patient panel, how can/will a group of 8,000 patients compare against market research panels that exceed 10-20x those sizes? Would patients be willing to pay? What implications will this (lack of) business model have for the further investment in / development of patient communities.</p>
<p>2. Where do all the patients go&#8230;.? 51% of people use the internet for health &#8230; but only 60,000 people registered for CureTogether (since 2008) + PatientsLikeMe (since 2004) &#8230; and only a small fraction of those registrants are active. How many more years do we need to wait before we see this wave of  &#8216;active online engagement&#8217; materializing? In the end, if the business model (see (1) above) needs to shift to premium services, how many of today&#8217;s users would actually pay?</p>
<p>3. Show us some data&#8230;! These conferences have become very good at showcasing new &#8216;online communities&#8217; instead of encouraging presentation of data that can help quantify / evaluate the healthcare benefits of patient communities.</p>
<p>&#8230;just some ideas to stir the pot ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: DarthMed</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50888</link>
		<dc:creator>DarthMed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no rocket science here, folks.

Its about perceived risk versus benefit - thats all.

e.g. For people that feel socially disconnected because of their disease, the benefit of joining a social network may outweigh their concerns about privacy. Since most users of health based social networks don&#039;t get much pay-off (see contrast with FB below), the benefit of ongoing participation doesn&#039;t materialize to justify the effort and risks, and these patients become inactive.

e.g. Since most people don&#039;t plan to be hit by a bus tomorrow, the perceived benefit of having all their data in one place doesn&#039;t outweigh the perceived risks of giving their health data to Microsoft or Google. So its no surprise that those services are not really breaking land speed records.

and some examples that reinforce this point in reverse:

e.g. Folks that join facebook, get the benefit of watching a soap opera that is the aging of their high school friends. The benefit grows over time, which lead users to start posting more photos, personal information, thoughts despite privacy concerns. Compare the crescendo of engagement that FB users seem to display compared to the drop in participation that occurs on PLM - which actually does a better job than FB at allowing people to remain deidentified.

e.g. Those who just received a cancer diagnosis and dont know where to turn will check out ACOR, register - and, for them, the benefit of getting a quick pointer of information will outweigh the risk of handing over their email address. (Gilles, I&#039;ll even give ACOR a plug despite your desire to take away my privacy :-) )

Thats all there is to it. Sometimes I think we try to overcomplicate these issues - wanting to blame &quot;the system&quot; or &quot;the culture&quot; for failings in our own services.

Offer benefit, people will come. Offer nothing, people won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no rocket science here, folks.</p>
<p>Its about perceived risk versus benefit &#8211; thats all.</p>
<p>e.g. For people that feel socially disconnected because of their disease, the benefit of joining a social network may outweigh their concerns about privacy. Since most users of health based social networks don&#8217;t get much pay-off (see contrast with FB below), the benefit of ongoing participation doesn&#8217;t materialize to justify the effort and risks, and these patients become inactive.</p>
<p>e.g. Since most people don&#8217;t plan to be hit by a bus tomorrow, the perceived benefit of having all their data in one place doesn&#8217;t outweigh the perceived risks of giving their health data to Microsoft or Google. So its no surprise that those services are not really breaking land speed records.</p>
<p>and some examples that reinforce this point in reverse:</p>
<p>e.g. Folks that join facebook, get the benefit of watching a soap opera that is the aging of their high school friends. The benefit grows over time, which lead users to start posting more photos, personal information, thoughts despite privacy concerns. Compare the crescendo of engagement that FB users seem to display compared to the drop in participation that occurs on PLM &#8211; which actually does a better job than FB at allowing people to remain deidentified.</p>
<p>e.g. Those who just received a cancer diagnosis and dont know where to turn will check out ACOR, register &#8211; and, for them, the benefit of getting a quick pointer of information will outweigh the risk of handing over their email address. (Gilles, I&#8217;ll even give ACOR a plug despite your desire to take away my privacy :-) )</p>
<p>Thats all there is to it. Sometimes I think we try to overcomplicate these issues &#8211; wanting to blame &#8220;the system&#8221; or &#8220;the culture&#8221; for failings in our own services.</p>
<p>Offer benefit, people will come. Offer nothing, people won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel R. Resnick</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-55648</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel R. Resnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @SusannahFox: Clinical trials, IRBs, and HIPAA: a thorny comment on e-patients.net: http://bit.ly/cbGp93 #WhyPM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @SusannahFox: Clinical trials, IRBs, and HIPAA: a thorny comment on e-patients.net: <a href="http://bit.ly/cbGp93" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cbGp93</a> #WhyPM</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Susannah Fox</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50878</link>
		<dc:creator>Susannah Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

I&#039;ve been thinking about this comment since it was first posted. Thanks so much for bringing up the research issues, since they are central to what some patient communities are doing (or hope to do).

If you haven&#039;t already, I recommend reading two articles from the launch issue of the Journal of Participatory Medicine:

The Field-Building Role of a Journal About Participatory Medicine and Health, and the Evidence Needed, by Lawrence Green

Key line:
&quot;...the participatory process will not lend itself easily to conventions of randomized controlled trials.&quot;

http://jopm.org/index.php/jpm/article/view/16/31

Patient-Driven Research: Rich Opportunities and Real Risks, by Gilles Frydman

Key lines: &quot;Acceptance of [patient-driven research] as valid clinical research requires validated methodologies and tools, democratization of data, ethical oversight, and immediacy. Without these critical drivers, such research will continue to be marginalized and its benefits available only to the activated minority.&quot;

http://jopm.org/index.php/jpm/article/view/28/18</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this comment since it was first posted. Thanks so much for bringing up the research issues, since they are central to what some patient communities are doing (or hope to do).</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t already, I recommend reading two articles from the launch issue of the Journal of Participatory Medicine:</p>
<p>The Field-Building Role of a Journal About Participatory Medicine and Health, and the Evidence Needed, by Lawrence Green</p>
<p>Key line:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;the participatory process will not lend itself easily to conventions of randomized controlled trials.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://jopm.org/index.php/jpm/article/view/16/31" rel="nofollow">http://jopm.org/index.php/jpm/article/view/16/31</a></p>
<p>Patient-Driven Research: Rich Opportunities and Real Risks, by Gilles Frydman</p>
<p>Key lines: &#8220;Acceptance of [patient-driven research] as valid clinical research requires validated methodologies and tools, democratization of data, ethical oversight, and immediacy. Without these critical drivers, such research will continue to be marginalized and its benefits available only to the activated minority.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://jopm.org/index.php/jpm/article/view/28/18" rel="nofollow">http://jopm.org/index.php/jpm/article/view/28/18</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dean Giustini</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50842</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Giustini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;via @KentBottles @SusannahFox Patients &amp; online communities-is social sharing future of health care? http://bit.ly/aolNPF #hcsm (might be)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">via @KentBottles @SusannahFox Patients &amp; online communities-is social sharing future of health care? <a href="http://bit.ly/aolNPF" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aolNPF</a> #hcsm (might be)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Vartabedian</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/02/privacy-can-kill-openness-can-heal.html/comment-page-1#comment-50841</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Vartabedian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://e-patients.net/?p=4664#comment-50841</guid>
		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Interesting RT @SusannahFox: Patients &amp; online communities: is social sharing the future of health care? http://bit.ly/aolNPF&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Interesting RT @SusannahFox: Patients &amp; online communities: is social sharing the future of health care? <a href="http://bit.ly/aolNPF" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aolNPF</a></span></span></span></p>
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