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		<title>By: Stitch</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51825</link>
		<dc:creator>Stitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have heard this, and as a result NEVER take a checklist to a new doctor. I also never go to a new doctor alone, and there are some doctors that I refuse to see without my husband in tow. The number of doctors that are white-coated bullies never ceases to amaze me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have heard this, and as a result NEVER take a checklist to a new doctor. I also never go to a new doctor alone, and there are some doctors that I refuse to see without my husband in tow. The number of doctors that are white-coated bullies never ceases to amaze me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Wilkins</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51818</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wilkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious if any of the clinicians that may read this post are familiar with the concept of: &quot;&quot;La maladie du petit papier?&quot;  

As recently as the mid-80s, some medical text books suggested that &quot;writing lists&quot; to share with their doctor was a symptom of a patient emotional disorder. 

Like the &quot;soup Nazi&quot; on Seinfeld, I will never be caught dead bringing a list of questions into my doctor.  - Just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious if any of the clinicians that may read this post are familiar with the concept of: &#8220;&#8221;La maladie du petit papier?&#8221;  </p>
<p>As recently as the mid-80s, some medical text books suggested that &#8220;writing lists&#8221; to share with their doctor was a symptom of a patient emotional disorder. </p>
<p>Like the &#8220;soup Nazi&#8221; on Seinfeld, I will never be caught dead bringing a list of questions into my doctor.  &#8211; Just kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Luks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Luks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just trying to keep you in the spotlight :-) !!</description>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51758</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t &quot;hate&quot; reposting things on Twitter - as I recall, I just asked *why* that post about Time magazine kept popping up.  My tweet didn&#039;t mean to have any tone in its voice. :)  (Seriously.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t &#8220;hate&#8221; reposting things on Twitter &#8211; as I recall, I just asked *why* that post about Time magazine kept popping up.  My tweet didn&#8217;t mean to have any tone in its voice. :)  (Seriously.)</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Luks</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51757</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Luks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave... I tried to touch on this subject and put forth suggestions for patients who are getting prepared for either their first visit to a specialist or perhaps a pre-surgical indications visit to explore alternatives.  

no questions... lists saves lives... I use them daily in the OR and in the office.  If patients understand how physicians think through a problem and how the questions will come to them (format, etc) they will be better prepared, less apprehensive and they will help ME, help YOU!  Lists have the ability to transform the delivery of care and the safety profile and quality of the care delivered.  

http://bit.ly/d1gLPG

http://bit.ly/1shGP

I know you hate if I re-post things on Twitter :-) even if by accident :-( but revisiting these from time to time will prove useful to many patients.... since everyday new patients are *borne*.  This info must *live* in an environment where it is easily recirculated to those who might find it beneficial.  
Cheers
howard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave&#8230; I tried to touch on this subject and put forth suggestions for patients who are getting prepared for either their first visit to a specialist or perhaps a pre-surgical indications visit to explore alternatives.  </p>
<p>no questions&#8230; lists saves lives&#8230; I use them daily in the OR and in the office.  If patients understand how physicians think through a problem and how the questions will come to them (format, etc) they will be better prepared, less apprehensive and they will help ME, help YOU!  Lists have the ability to transform the delivery of care and the safety profile and quality of the care delivered.  </p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/d1gLPG" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/d1gLPG</a></p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/1shGP" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1shGP</a></p>
<p>I know you hate if I re-post things on Twitter :-) even if by accident :-( but revisiting these from time to time will prove useful to many patients&#8230;. since everyday new patients are *borne*.  This info must *live* in an environment where it is easily recirculated to those who might find it beneficial.<br />
Cheers<br />
howard</p>
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		<title>By: carlosrizo</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-55982</link>
		<dc:creator>carlosrizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @rawarrior: RT @medxcentral What would checklist for patients look like? http://ow.ly/1nRDp #epatient =&gt; Have to find Dr who&#039;ll tolerate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @rawarrior: RT @medxcentral What would checklist for patients look like? <a href="http://ow.ly/1nRDp" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/1nRDp</a> #epatient =&gt; Have to find Dr who&#39;ll tolerate</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Eva J. Mah</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51714</link>
		<dc:creator>Eva J. Mah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @medxcentral: What would a checklist for patients look like? &#124; http://ow.ly/1nRDp &#124; #hcn #healthcare #hospitals #epatient #fb&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @medxcentral: What would a checklist for patients look like? | <a href="http://ow.ly/1nRDp" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/1nRDp</a> | #hcn #healthcare #hospitals #epatient #fb</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: medXcentral (Jim)</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51715</link>
		<dc:creator>medXcentral (Jim)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;What would a checklist for patients look like? &#124; http://ow.ly/1nRDp &#124; #hcn #healthcare #hospitals #epatient #fb&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">What would a checklist for patients look like? | <a href="http://ow.ly/1nRDp" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/1nRDp</a> | #hcn #healthcare #hospitals #epatient #fb</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Dave deBronkart</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51669</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave deBronkart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New post &quot;What would a pt chklist look like?&quot; Comment pls http://is.gd/aM1l9 @Lygeia @pnschmidt @INQRIProgram @pioneerrwjf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New post &quot;What would a pt chklist look like?&quot; Comment pls <a href="http://is.gd/aM1l9" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/aM1l9</a> @Lygeia @pnschmidt @INQRIProgram @pioneerrwjf</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51689</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Checklists are especially important in chronic care and in care of frequently monitored populations (e.g., the very young and the very old).  In each of these cases, clinical encounters can be dominated by the &quot;tyranny of the urgent,&quot; and issues of maintenance get ignored.  (This was addressed in an excellent series in JAMA around 2000.)  A patient checklist should consist of three sections: (1) stuff to do to prepare for the appointment and things to bring with you; (2) disease-specific questions to ask and topics to discuss indexed to the stage of your illness; (3) data to record between appointments and blank spaces to add your own questions.  An iPhone ap for this could be excellent... Patients should record sub-clinical issues (i.e., the kind of things that don&#039;t make you schedule an appointment) in order to have them front-of-mind when they do schedule one.

For example, many patients with Parkinson&#039;s have complex medications that require careful titration in order to maximize the benefit.  Talking about medication can dominate a clinical encounter, however constipation, which is both a symptom of PD and a side effect of some medications, can cause dangerous complications and waiting until it becomes the urgent complaint could be too late.  Sexual dysfunction can strain the patient-caregiver relationship from both sides, but is rarely the reason for an office visit.  Your physician may be too rushed or distracted by your primary complaints to remember to bring these up.  A patient checklist can be invaluable in optimizing the use of a patient&#039;s brief time with the physician.

Care today is more complicated, effective, and wasteful then it ever has been in history, all at the same time.  (Pre-1900, care did very little, but it was pretty cheap.)  We need everyone participating to make it work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checklists are especially important in chronic care and in care of frequently monitored populations (e.g., the very young and the very old).  In each of these cases, clinical encounters can be dominated by the &#8220;tyranny of the urgent,&#8221; and issues of maintenance get ignored.  (This was addressed in an excellent series in JAMA around 2000.)  A patient checklist should consist of three sections: (1) stuff to do to prepare for the appointment and things to bring with you; (2) disease-specific questions to ask and topics to discuss indexed to the stage of your illness; (3) data to record between appointments and blank spaces to add your own questions.  An iPhone ap for this could be excellent&#8230; Patients should record sub-clinical issues (i.e., the kind of things that don&#8217;t make you schedule an appointment) in order to have them front-of-mind when they do schedule one.</p>
<p>For example, many patients with Parkinson&#8217;s have complex medications that require careful titration in order to maximize the benefit.  Talking about medication can dominate a clinical encounter, however constipation, which is both a symptom of PD and a side effect of some medications, can cause dangerous complications and waiting until it becomes the urgent complaint could be too late.  Sexual dysfunction can strain the patient-caregiver relationship from both sides, but is rarely the reason for an office visit.  Your physician may be too rushed or distracted by your primary complaints to remember to bring these up.  A patient checklist can be invaluable in optimizing the use of a patient&#8217;s brief time with the physician.</p>
<p>Care today is more complicated, effective, and wasteful then it ever has been in history, all at the same time.  (Pre-1900, care did very little, but it was pretty cheap.)  We need everyone participating to make it work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lygeia Ricciardi</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51687</link>
		<dc:creator>Lygeia Ricciardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilles -- 

That sounds very useful... I will watch/listen for it. I will be interested to see how you structure it, how you define communities, how you get the word out, etc -- good luck! 

- Lygeia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilles &#8212; </p>
<p>That sounds very useful&#8230; I will watch/listen for it. I will be interested to see how you structure it, how you define communities, how you get the word out, etc &#8212; good luck! </p>
<p>- Lygeia</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51686</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then people would (perhaps rightfully) question my motives.

There&#039;s a lot to be said for independent voices. That&#039;s why it&#039;s so important for work like ours to be funded by donations and foundations as much as possible. (That&#039;s part of why I&#039;m so glad to see RWJF on this thread.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then people would (perhaps rightfully) question my motives.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot to be said for independent voices. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important for work like ours to be funded by donations and foundations as much as possible. (That&#8217;s part of why I&#8217;m so glad to see RWJF on this thread.)</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Romano</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51685</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should join AHRQ&#039;s PR team, Dave!  :)</description>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51684</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ahrq.gov/questionsaretheanswer/questionbuilder.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;question builder&lt;/a&gt;, Amy - thanks!

A great, useful, empowering, free, quality-improving, problem-avoiding e-patient resource, developed and provided by our government. Now THAT&#039;s a great use of &quot;your taxes at work.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that <a href="http://www.ahrq.gov/questionsaretheanswer/questionbuilder.aspx" rel="nofollow">question builder</a>, Amy &#8211; thanks!</p>
<p>A great, useful, empowering, free, quality-improving, problem-avoiding e-patient resource, developed and provided by our government. Now THAT&#8217;s a great use of &#8220;your taxes at work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Romano</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51681</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave et al, are you familiar with AHRQ&#039;s &quot;Questions Are the Answer&quot; question list builder tool?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ahrq.gov/questionsaretheanswer/questionbuilder.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Check it out&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave et al, are you familiar with AHRQ&#8217;s &#8220;Questions Are the Answer&#8221; question list builder tool?  <a href="http://www.ahrq.gov/questionsaretheanswer/questionbuilder.aspx" rel="nofollow">Check it out</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51680</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lygeia,

You raise an excellent point: &quot;join online communities that can help support you as a patient. Obviously this latter approach is an attractive one, provided you know of such a community. (One challenge, though, is finding the right community when you need it–I will take a better look.) &quot;

I am now actively working to help build such a centralized resource about medical online communities. It is an important component to help people find the right information about their medical issues and should help federate the large numbers of people who are already practicing some aspects of participatory medicine without even knowing anything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lygeia,</p>
<p>You raise an excellent point: &#8220;join online communities that can help support you as a patient. Obviously this latter approach is an attractive one, provided you know of such a community. (One challenge, though, is finding the right community when you need it–I will take a better look.) &#8221;</p>
<p>I am now actively working to help build such a centralized resource about medical online communities. It is an important component to help people find the right information about their medical issues and should help federate the large numbers of people who are already practicing some aspects of participatory medicine without even knowing anything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
		<link>http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/03/patient-checklist.html/comment-page-1#comment-51679</link>
		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Lygeia, this is E-Patient 101: &quot;empowered&quot; means being clear that you can ask for what you want. NOT being able to is the definition of being disempowered.

Think you&#039;re being too progressive? &lt;a href=&quot;http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_w65dIDBa6jU/Sc69Kc9zqDI/AAAAAAAAAIc/_TscgK_F1Y0/s1600-h/DrSpock.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This refrigerator magnet&lt;/a&gt; carries a quote from 1946 - the first words of Benjamin Spock&#039;s baby book:


If you can&#039;t ask for what you want, you can&#039;t be Engaged (E #2) in care. That&#039;s especially important on a safety concern for the patient, young old or yourself.  Having such a concern, and resolving it, is the essence of being a  responsible partner.

Don&#039;t fall prey to any real or imagined arrogance. During my illness I wrote to my oncologist with a major question - reading a radiology report it looked like one of my tumors had grown 30% in two weeks. I emailed my oncologist, Dr. David McDermott - one of the best in the world for my disease! - and he explained that I was mixing up x, y, and z dimensions. (I didn&#039;t understand the word &quot;craniocaudal,&quot; the &quot;spine&quot; direction.)  I apologized for taking his time and you know what he said? &quot;I am happy to field your questions.&quot;

Is there any reason on earth to expect less from any (ahem) &lt;b&gt;care provider&lt;/b&gt;?

Note that I didn&#039;t say &quot;Be obnoxious.&quot; I&#039;m not obnoxious to my clinicians. Obnoxious is only appropriate when somebody&#039;s refusing to do their job, e.g. in &lt;a href=&quot;http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/01/my-father’s-medical-record-fiasco.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alan Viars&#039;s story&lt;/a&gt; of his father&#039;s medical records fiasco, when employees refused to honor the law.  

Expressing a concern to your provider is responsible, not obnoxious. I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Lygeia, this is E-Patient 101: &#8220;empowered&#8221; means being clear that you can ask for what you want. NOT being able to is the definition of being disempowered.</p>
<p>Think you&#8217;re being too progressive? <a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_w65dIDBa6jU/Sc69Kc9zqDI/AAAAAAAAAIc/_TscgK_F1Y0/s1600-h/DrSpock.gif" rel="nofollow">This refrigerator magnet</a> carries a quote from 1946 &#8211; the first words of Benjamin Spock&#8217;s baby book:</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t ask for what you want, you can&#8217;t be Engaged (E #2) in care. That&#8217;s especially important on a safety concern for the patient, young old or yourself.  Having such a concern, and resolving it, is the essence of being a  responsible partner.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t fall prey to any real or imagined arrogance. During my illness I wrote to my oncologist with a major question &#8211; reading a radiology report it looked like one of my tumors had grown 30% in two weeks. I emailed my oncologist, Dr. David McDermott &#8211; one of the best in the world for my disease! &#8211; and he explained that I was mixing up x, y, and z dimensions. (I didn&#8217;t understand the word &#8220;craniocaudal,&#8221; the &#8220;spine&#8221; direction.)  I apologized for taking his time and you know what he said? &#8220;I am happy to field your questions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there any reason on earth to expect less from any (ahem) <b>care provider</b>?</p>
<p>Note that I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;Be obnoxious.&#8221; I&#8217;m not obnoxious to my clinicians. Obnoxious is only appropriate when somebody&#8217;s refusing to do their job, e.g. in <a href="http://e-patients.net/archives/2010/01/my-father’s-medical-record-fiasco.html" rel="nofollow">Alan Viars&#8217;s story</a> of his father&#8217;s medical records fiasco, when employees refused to honor the law.  </p>
<p>Expressing a concern to your provider is responsible, not obnoxious. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Lygeia Ricciardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lygeia Ricciardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilles and Dave -- 

Both of your raise good points. 

You&#039;re right, Dave -- I really shouldn&#039;t think of a phone call (or any communication) as &quot;bothering&quot; the MD. And my intention would be to keep the phone call short.

While I blame the system more than any individual, I am reacting to a perceived sense I have gotten that I&#039;m meddling if I try to engage too much. There are a couple of ways to address this issue, including: pick your healthcare providers carefully (when possible--which it&#039;s not, always), forge ahead and ask your questions anyway (if the Dr seems brusque or displeased, get over it--you need to meet your own needs and improve the system), join online communities that can help support you as a patient. Obviously this latter approach is an attractive one, provided you know of such a community. (One challenge, though, is finding the right community when you need it--I will take a better look.) Thanks! 

Back to the birds&#039; eye perspective -- a patient checklist should include  something to help patients navigate their health in between MD encounters -- part of which should be via finding relevant communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilles and Dave &#8212; </p>
<p>Both of your raise good points. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Dave &#8212; I really shouldn&#8217;t think of a phone call (or any communication) as &#8220;bothering&#8221; the MD. And my intention would be to keep the phone call short.</p>
<p>While I blame the system more than any individual, I am reacting to a perceived sense I have gotten that I&#8217;m meddling if I try to engage too much. There are a couple of ways to address this issue, including: pick your healthcare providers carefully (when possible&#8211;which it&#8217;s not, always), forge ahead and ask your questions anyway (if the Dr seems brusque or displeased, get over it&#8211;you need to meet your own needs and improve the system), join online communities that can help support you as a patient. Obviously this latter approach is an attractive one, provided you know of such a community. (One challenge, though, is finding the right community when you need it&#8211;I will take a better look.) Thanks! </p>
<p>Back to the birds&#8217; eye perspective &#8212; a patient checklist should include  something to help patients navigate their health in between MD encounters &#8212; part of which should be via finding relevant communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Frydman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilles Frydman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lygeia,

this is a classic example of a situation where an online community of informed e-patients should be able to help you by providing the feedback you need almost on the spot. Based on your email there is really no reason the physician should be the one answering the question, particularly if the treatment is standard and the medical problem  well understood. 

Doctors are overwhelmed and there is no reason why, in the age of the vastly increased public access to medical information, communities of patients and caregivers can&#039;t help alleviate the problem. 

You&#039;ve just provided another reason why participatory medicine is centered around the networked patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lygeia,</p>
<p>this is a classic example of a situation where an online community of informed e-patients should be able to help you by providing the feedback you need almost on the spot. Based on your email there is really no reason the physician should be the one answering the question, particularly if the treatment is standard and the medical problem  well understood. </p>
<p>Doctors are overwhelmed and there is no reason why, in the age of the vastly increased public access to medical information, communities of patients and caregivers can&#8217;t help alleviate the problem. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve just provided another reason why participatory medicine is centered around the networked patients.</p>
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		<title>By: e-Patient Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>e-Patient Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lygeia,

Great real-world example. 

May I ask for a moment of self-reflection? What has you think of it in terms of &quot;bothering&quot; the physician?

It&#039;s great that you said &quot;lengthy phone call.&quot; Dr. Danny Sands&#039; 1999 guidelines for doc-pt email advised keeping it short. Same for phone calls, I think.

In my view you have EVERY right ask for what you need as a customer of this provider.  I&#039;m just as sure you wouldn&#039;t have picked a disempowering one, so I&#039;d just call and say &quot;I have an important question that I want to discuss with the doctor. What&#039;s the best way? S/he&#039;s welcome to email me or call. I&#039;ll be as brief as possible, for both our sakes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lygeia,</p>
<p>Great real-world example. </p>
<p>May I ask for a moment of self-reflection? What has you think of it in terms of &#8220;bothering&#8221; the physician?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that you said &#8220;lengthy phone call.&#8221; Dr. Danny Sands&#8217; 1999 guidelines for doc-pt email advised keeping it short. Same for phone calls, I think.</p>
<p>In my view you have EVERY right ask for what you need as a customer of this provider.  I&#8217;m just as sure you wouldn&#8217;t have picked a disempowering one, so I&#8217;d just call and say &#8220;I have an important question that I want to discuss with the doctor. What&#8217;s the best way? S/he&#8217;s welcome to email me or call. I&#8217;ll be as brief as possible, for both our sakes.&#8221;</p>
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